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Portable potty- how/what/eeow!?
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February 19, 2012 - 10:57 am
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I bought a portable potty,

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But there are things they don't mention in it. I was hoping those who have actually used one can help me with this. Do you use toilet paper in it, or do you put it in a trash bag?  Is there special toilet paper for it?  What do you use for smell/cleaning?  It came with one little packet of detergent stuff, but only one.  (I have yet to use the toilet)

... and since I'm on the subject, does anyone know how long of a walk it is in the c-loop of french creek park to the potty?

Thanks

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February 19, 2012 - 2:12 pm
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French Creek Potty: not far. We will not use ours that trip.  In fact we don't use ours most time, we plan ahead and get a site within 1-5 sites away from bathroom.  I have already told the rest of my family that is they use it, they clean it out too.  THat seems to ward off any thoughts about it.

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February 19, 2012 - 3:15 pm
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This might help
Dometic Group SaniPotties

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February 19, 2012 - 3:21 pm
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Also when you get it sit on it and make sure its the right height. You also might want to get something like this instead of using it in you camper. You can change clothes in it as well. A lot of places sell them -Walmart, Cabelas, Dicks, etc. just make sure the one you buy doesnt allow shadows or you could be the most sought after person to camp next to.
http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pr.....0792/36721

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February 19, 2012 - 3:28 pm
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Cindy,
If you go to the PA state park website and walk thru like you are booking a site, you can click on the site number and there are many details about each site.  Here is the details for the site you have booked at French Creek.

Site Attributes: 
Car/Truck : YES
Accommodates 15 ft Trailer : YES
Accommodates 20 ft Trailer : YES
Accommodates 30 ft Trailer : YES
Accommodates 40 ft Trailer : YES
Electric - 20 Amp Service : YES
Electric - 30 Amp Service : YES
Electric - 50 Amp Service : YES
Exposure Shaded : YES
Nearby site (another) to campsite : C-33
Nearby site to campsite : C-37
Nearest Drinking Water : Less than 300 feet
Nearest Lake/Stream : Greater than 300 feet
Nearest Parking Lot for second car parking : Less than 300 feet
Nearest Playground : Greater than 300 feet
Nearest Swim area : Greater than 1/4 mile
Nearest restroom : Less than 300 feet
Nearest shower : Less than 300 feet

Outside the campground loop : YES
Parking is end to end : YES
Paved spur surface : YES
Tent less than or equal to 8x8 : YES
Type - Spur : YES

Since this information isn't often available for private campgrounds, I just ask, how large of a camper will the site accommodate?  What utilities are available at the site? etc.  I also go to Google or Bing map and view the campground.

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February 19, 2012 - 7:47 pm
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[quote author=MariskaHargitay link=topic=1393.msg10937#msg10937 date=1329667040]
... Do you use toilet paper in it, or do you put it in a trash bag?  Is there special toilet paper for it?  What do you use for smell/cleaning? 
Thanks

Wal-Mart, Amazon and any RV dealer sell RV toilet paper qid=1329698451&sr=8-2 and deodorant qid=1329698663&sr=8-7. There are a lot of brands available, the main thing to look for is that it is designed for RV and marine toilets.

The RV paper breaks down rapidly and the deodorizer works very well.

John

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February 19, 2012 - 8:01 pm
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DW's first trip was with a friend who had one and she liked the idea of not having to walk to the bathroom in the middle of the night.  I said if it will make her happier, I'll get it.  We have taken it with us to sporting events and concerts.  When DS starts to be potty trained, you can bet that will be a permanent fixture in the back of the minivan. 

I knew when I bought it that I was going to be the one emptying it.  It isn't difficult.  Just detach the top, unscrew the cap and press the vent valve and pour into either your toilet at home or the dump station at the campground.  Technically you can dump it down the toilet at the campground but people don't like that so better to take your "stuff" home with you or the dump station.

I bought a bottle of "blue stuff" when I first got it and it lasted me.....2 seasons.  You fill the top portion of the potty with water so you can flush and then you pour the "blue stuff" in the tank with some water.  I never measured it, just poured a little bit.  I never had a problem with it smelling.  I bought some self contained packs last time.  The blue stuff really stains and the bottle I had was leaky so I kept it in a ziplock.  We'll see how I like these packs.

There is a special RV TP that is supposed to biodegrade super fast, but if you don't have it, cheap single ply works as well.  I have no problems dropping the deuce in it.  The blue stuff helps break it down.  I have found that if you let everything "brew" for a week after you come home, it is mostly broken down and is just a matter of pouring it out and then hosing it out. 

You do not want to store the potty where it has the potential to freeze.  The flush mechanism has little plastic pipes and pumps that you will probably never get all the water out of.  It will freeze and break.  You don't want to find out you can't flush when you really need to flush  🙁  I usually store it in the camper in season and then in the basement in the winter. 

As for the walk at French Creek.....you are not far.  Probably a 30 second walk from your site.  It would probably take you 2-3 minutes to walk the whole loop.

Matt O 2006 Skyline Nomad 27' travel trailer.  Previously owned 1986 Coleman Columbia / 1992 Coleman Senecca / 1989 Born Free Class C RV.

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February 19, 2012 - 9:54 pm
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As far as storing the potty for the winter, just dump the water, pour in some RV antifreeze and pump it through just like you're flushing. When you see it run pink into the bowl, it's good to go.

I always stored the potty inside the Flagstaff over the winter and never had a problem. Beats having to find shelf space inside!

John

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February 20, 2012 - 5:00 am
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I never thought about the RV antifreeze in the potty.  I have plenty of room so I just bring it in when I bring the powerwasher in.

Matt O 2006 Skyline Nomad 27' travel trailer.  Previously owned 1986 Coleman Columbia / 1992 Coleman Senecca / 1989 Born Free Class C RV.

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February 22, 2012 - 11:39 am
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Wow! Thanks everyone for the responses!  Sorry I took so long to respond.  Thursday I came down with a cold, and was battling that all weekend, then Monday morning I woke up with a horrible stomach bug.  It was one painful long weekend!

I found it weird the booklet that came with the potty didn't say a thing about toilet paper. I'm glad I had all of you to help me straighten it out!

John, thanks for the link to the deodorizer, that's just what I need!  Although my sense of smell is lacking, I'm nervous about emptying it. After a cold three years ago the slightest sight of something gross causes me to get sick. Also, good call on the not storing outside, I hadn't even thought about that.

Matt, thanks for the tip about not emptying it in the bathroom, I never thought about others not liking it.  I guess I can understand, although I still might if the other option is to bring it home with me.  Since I live in a 2nd floor apartment, that's just not going to be an option.  Also, I don't have a hose, so this whole thing will be interesting.  Ever tried to clean a rabbit cage without a hose?  It's a pain!

Joe, Fantastic!  I had gone through before I booked to get the price, but definitely didn't see what you sent me.  That's great!

Bad Seed, thanks for the height suggestion, I originally was given the smaller toilet as a thank you gift (the card read "I shit you not, I appreciate you!" LMAO).  After receiving it and it having manufacturers defect, I decided to spend a few bucks and get the bigger one so I wouldn't be so low to the ground. 

I do have a potty/shower tent.  Two in fact, because I'm crazy, lol.  I got the one sturdy tent like one which proved to be somewhat annoying to set up, then found a popup one on sale online that came with one of those tiny shower bags. My biggest concern with the popup was that it was more narrow up top, and I'd like it to double as a changing room, especially if I'm camping with my brother.  I'm not sure I'll ever be gung-ho enough to shower out of a plastic bag, but it's good to have. 

thingette 1s sister I don't think I'll bring it for this trip either, especially since Joe said it's about a 30 second walk, but I definitely plan to use it this year sometime!

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February 22, 2012 - 1:54 pm
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Cindy,

Even if we're camped close to the shower house, we always had the porta potty with us. I don't mind a middle of the night walk, but DW isn't as fond of that. And, if it's raining or cold, it sure beats having to pull on a raincoat or warm clothes!

When we had the Flagstaff we'd always set up the potty at night and put it away in the morning. Now that we have the Niagara we don't have to be as concerned with distance to the potties, but it also means waiting in line at the dump station.  🙁

John

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February 22, 2012 - 8:48 pm
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Blue stuff from Wally World, or the orange stuff are great, prefer the orange stuff though..As for as TP goes just my opinion, but we tried different ones and decided on the same comfy stuff we use at home, with enough water and chemical it breaks down nicely...You need more of the single ply stuff to do the job of multi ply so what is the point/..Again, just my opinion, YMMV.
Happy Camping 🙂
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February 23, 2012 - 4:57 pm
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I read something not too long ago about the different additivies and here's what I got out of it:

They almost always fall into three categories which I'll denote as blue, green and orange, even though they can come in other colors.

The "blue" uses chemicals, including formaldehyde, to kill bacteria and deodorants to kill the smell.  It usually works pretty well, but it's not particularly good for the environment.  The biggest problem here is that when you dump your porta-potty or RV black tank, it quite often goes into a septic tank.  These chemicals go on to kill the bacteria in the septic tank, which isn't a good thing.

The "green" (example: ) is just a more environmentally friendly version of the blue.  From my experience and reports from others, it doesn't work as well.  The septic tank problems are slightly reduced, but still present.

The "orange"/enzyme (example: ) uses or encourages bacteria to actually break down and consume the waste, is probably the most environmentally friendly, and I seem to recall reading it actually helps septic tanks.  The only drawback that I've seen is that it doesn't seem to take care of odor immediately when you first drop it in the tank like the other two.  It seems to take a little time to start working if you're just adding it to a black tank/porta-potty that hasn't been used in a while.  You also can't switch back and forth because the small amounts of chemical additives left over from the blue/green will stop the "orange" from working.

We switched to an enzyme additive last summer when the Thetford EcoSmart Green drop-ins we were using didn't seem to be cutting it.  Ever since then, we haven't had any problem with odor and it might actually be slowly cleaning our black tank level sensors off because they're starting to work again without any other action on my part.  I'm not sure which one at the moment, so I'll need to check in the camper if you're interested.

The additives can come in a lot of forms, including large bottles, single-use bottles, and pouches.  So don't think the only form is the 36oz bottles I linked to above.

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February 23, 2012 - 5:29 pm
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Hi Twstdpear,

Thanks for all the info.  I know I need to buy something, but I'm working if I want to spend a lot of money and buy something I know works, or spend a little for something questionable. 

What I have found is that the Thetford something-or-other (I have the window open at work) old green meanie works great, but they may not be making it anymore.  They have drop in pouches available online, and it comes out to (with shipping) about $20 for 8 pouches.  Then there's the green ecosmart, which like you said, nobody seems to like. 

If you could figure out what you've been happy with, I'd really appreciate it. 

As I said before, I'm quite worried about the emptying process.  Last time I totally cleaned out my turtle tank I got one bad whiff and got sick and it took me an hour to clean out the tank.  Can't be doing that at a campsite!

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February 23, 2012 - 7:00 pm
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Cindy,

You don't want to use the single serving size with a porta-potty. Those individual packets/bottles are sized for a full size RV's holding tank, which can be as large as 40 gallons. Your porta-potty is, at most, a couple of gallons.

We used to use the blue stuff but switched last year to the orange, since it's supposed to better for the environment. We buy the smallest bottle we can, which is probably in the 16-24 oz. range, and try to reduce amount to fit the size of our tank. When we used the porta-potty we just splashed a little into the bottom holding tank. I think the recommended amount (again, for 40 gal.) was 2 oz. With the full bathroom in the Niagara we use more, but still far less than the recommended dose since we have just a 9 gal. black tank.

When we switched to the orange stuff we bought a bottle of Camco TST Orange Power. Most Wal-Mart stores stock it.

John

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April 16, 2012 - 11:32 pm
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After posting that long, drawn-out explanation, I found we were using the Camco TST Orange, not the enzyme I thought we were using. 

So, most of the actual information is correct, but just I wasn't using what I thought I was.

JEH412 is right.  Before we had a camper with a black tank, we had a porta-potty with a 5gal tank.  We would pour about 1/4 of the single-use bottles into the waste tank and that would do it.  It was probably still about double what we needed, but at least it was more in the ballpark.

For enzyme treatments, the Walex pouches seem to get good reviews, and I may try them when we're done with the Camco TST Orange we're using now.  Walex also sells a liquid version.  The 40oz bottle would last for at least 40 uses with a porta-potty.

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December 2, 2012 - 7:53 pm
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First response for me. Stand Back. The best for smell is the cheap Camp-a-chem at walmart. Best toilet is Coleman potable flush toilet large version, fresh water flush ok somtimes sucks air, regular seat height a big plus. We empty every day and TP goes in trash bag.

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December 2, 2012 - 9:14 pm
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Mine is short so stowed in trex box that we put potty on top of, TP in trash 8)

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