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Do you have any generator recommendations for us? I am looking for a quiet one and I only know of Honda. We will be using it for basic camper electric and maybe the ac during the summer. I know that there are other manufactures and was hoping others could suggest one.
Camping Life magazine tested several http://www.campinglife.com/cam.....shoot-out/ recently. They list just three -- Honda, Yamaha and Robin Subaru -- online but I thought they had some others in print. A few other inverter generators are Briggs & Stratton, Generac, Hyundai and Honeywell.
I've been starting to research them since we decided to buy one that we can use for camping and use to power a few critical circuits at home in case of a power outage. A local small equipment dealer said he's been very happy with Briggs & Stratton. They spec out equivalent to Honda but are much more affordable.
John
Fire,
IMHO, Honda and Yamaha make the best, most quiet inverter Genny...They are way out of my price range though...for the average working man with a family and all that encompasses check out Champion Generators..open frame and inverter models...Inverters are more expensive, but much quieter than open frame "contractor" models..
Wolfie :cowboy:
I have a Yamaha 2400 Efs and really like it. I bought it with the intention of being able to power the AC when dry camping.
Haven't done that yet (3 years). Since I've never powered the AC, I almost wish I had gotten the 2000 efs as it's a lot lighter. The 2400 is around 76 lbs without fuel.
The 2000 is about 25 lbs lighter. I've been around the Hondas and Yamahas and they are quality, quiet units even when running at full throttle.
I have 2 generators that are both real noisy. I don't take them with me camping. I use them at home when I lose power. If I were to use one for camping I would go for the Honda Generators. I have heard nothing but good things about them.
Matt O 2006 Skyline Nomad 27' travel trailer. Previously owned 1986 Coleman Columbia / 1992 Coleman Senecca / 1989 Born Free Class C RV.
I have a Yamaha 2400is and it works great for boondocking. My generator has never been capable of reliably running my AC, so if that is a requirement you might want to look at something bigger. We use it to recharge our batteries and run the rest of the electronics (television, microwave, etc.), so if I had to do it again I'd probably get one of the 2000s (either Honda or Yamaha). Although the 2400 is still reasonably light (70 lbs), it is a little more than I need, yet not enough to power everything (AC). Plus, the 2000s have the ability to run in line with each other to provide more power than most campers will ever need. Yamaha or Honda? I have a Yamaha and am absolutely satisfied... But based on what I've read, the Hondas are great generators also. I guess it depends on whether you prefer blue or red...
it would help knowing size and brand of your a/c.
most 13.5 a/c's can be run by the Yamaha 2400. if you have a smaller a/c, you could possibly use a 2000w generator.
the big 3 quiet inverter generators are Honda, Yamaha and Kipor.
there are a number of new Chinese-made inverter generators under numerous brand names. Boliy is the best of these and will run probably all 13.5 a/c's.
some other of these new brands are Magna, Dometic, Hyundai, Ramsond, ETQ and Powerhouse.
most of these are all made in the same 2 or 3 factories and some look exactly the same, just by a different name.
Here are some standard specs:
There are other manufactures and models available.
[table]
[tr]
[td][/td]
[td] - Yamaha EF1000iS - [/td]
[td]Honda EU1000i - [/td]
[td]Kipor IG1000 - [/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Noise Level[/td]
[td]47 dBA / 57dBA[/td]
[td]53 dBA / 59dBA[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Maximum AC Output[/td]
[td]1000 Watts[/td]
[td]1000 Watts[/td]
[td]1000 Watts[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Rated AC Output[/td]
[td]900 Watts[/td]
[td]900 Watts[/td]
[td]900 Watts[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Fuel Capacity[/td]
[td].66 Gal[/td]
[td].6 Gal[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Operation at 1/4 Load[/td]
[td]12.0 Hrs.[/td]
[td]up to 8.3 hrs[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Dimensions[/td]
[td]17.7" x 9.4" x 14.9"[/td]
[td]17.7" x 9.4" x 15.0"[/td]
[td]18.1″ x 9.8″ x 15.5″[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Dry Weight[/td]
[td]27.9 lbs[/td]
[td]29 lbs.[/td]
[td]30 lbs.[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Price[/td]
[td]$792.00[/td]
[td]$949.95[/td]
[td]$445.00[/td]
[/tr][/table]
[hr]
[table][tr]
[td][/td]
[td] - Yamaha EF2000iS - [/td]
[td]Honda EU2000i - [/td]
[td]Kipor IG2000 - [/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Noise Level[/td]
[td]51.5 dBA / 61dBA[/td]
[td]53 dBA / 59 dBa[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Maximum AC Output[/td]
[td]2000 Watts[/td]
[td]2000 Watts[/td]
[td]2000 Watts[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Rated AC Output[/td]
[td]1600 Watts[/td]
[td]1600 Watts[/td]
[td]1600 Watts[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Fuel Capacity[/td]
[td]1.1 Gal[/td]
[td]1.1 Gal[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Operation at 1/4 Load[/td]
[td]10.5 Hrs[/td]
[td]9.6 Hrs[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Dimensions[/td]
[td]19.3" x 11.0" x 17.9"[/td]
[td]20.1" x 11.4" x 16.7"[/td]
[td]21.6″ x 11.5″ x 15.9″[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Dry Weight[/td]
[td]44.1 lbs.[/td]
[td]46.3 lbs.[/td]
[td]48.5 lbs.[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Price[/td]
[td]$990.00[/td]
[td]$1,149.00[/td]
[td]$649.00[/td][/tr][/table]
[hr]
[table][tr]
[td][/td]
[td] - Yamaha EF3000iSE - [/td]
[td]Honda EU3000iS - [/td]
[td]Kipor IG3000 - [/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Noise Level[/td]
[td]51 dBA / 57 dBA[/td]
[td]49 dBA / 58 dBA[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Maximum AC Output[/td]
[td]3000 Watts[/td]
[td]3000 Watts[/td]
[td]3000 Watts[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Rated AC Output[/td]
[td]2800 Watts[/td]
[td]2800 Watts[/td]
[td]2800 Watts[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Fuel Capacity[/td]
[td]3.4 Gal[/td]
[td]3.4 Gal[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Operation at 1/4 Load[/td]
[td]20.5 hrs[/td]
[td]20 hrs[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Dimensions[/td]
[td]26.7" x 17.5" x 21.9"[/td]
[td]25.8" x 18.9" x 22.4"[/td]
[td]27″ x 16.7″ x 19.9″[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Dry Weight[/td]
[td]151 lbs[/td]
[td]134 lbs[/td]
[td]132 lbs[/td]
[/tr][tr]
[td]Price[/td]
[td]$1,980.00[/td]
[td]$2,329.00[/td]
[td]$1,156.00[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
If you are thinking about buying a generator, you need to first determine what size generator you need?
To determine the proper size generator for your camping, you need to know how much electrical power you will use.
1. Determine what electrical devices you will want to run from the generator. Survey your camper for appliances that run on 120 volts. Television, microwave and other kitchen appliances generally require the most power but smaller appliances can add up. Most camper lights are 12 volt but some may be 120 volt. Your campers A/C or electric heater is the biggest power users.
2. Add up the power requirements, in watts, for all the devices that you are likely to operate at the same time. Wattage ratings are printed on light bulbs; other devices like hair dryers and electric heaters are also described by their wattage requirements. If the device doesn't provide a wattage requirement, you can determine watts by multiplying volts times amps.
Here are some common sizes for items as a sample:
Coffee Maker 900
Frying Pan 1,500
Microwave Oven 1,000
Toaster 1,150
Hair Dryer (portable) 1,000
Stereo 30
Television 80
Air Conditioner 13,000 BTU* 1,500
Electric Heater (portable) 1,000
Fan (portable) 115
To better understand the noise level, here are common everyday thing to compare:
Whisper Quiet Library 30dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
Power saw at 3' 110dB
The weight, size and cost are self explanatory
Last summer I picked up a used Generac 5KW at a great price. Heavy, loud and unfortunately made in china. But it runs well, has powered critical stuff in my and my neighbor's house during Hurricane Irene. We are doing a five day dry trip and I'm debating bringing it but probably not. Just too big to charge the camper's battery.
Not sure if the OP has already made his decision or not, but I'm making this decision right now.
I'd love to be able to get a quiet generator to power the AC on the pup. But that means at least the Yamaha 2400is and that's about $1400. I really thought about it and in the 6 years that I've had the pup, I've used the AC on maybe 4 camping trips. Granted, I really needed the AC on those trips. But the numbers just don't justify the bigger generator for me. Add to it I've seen reports like Biken201's that it won't reliably run the AC and it really brings home that I probably won't get the 2400is.
I decided that what I really need is something to recharge the battery in the pup. I have 7000 watt generator to run the house in case of power outage, so a small generator is all that I need.
So I did some research on the smaller generators. The Honeywell, Generac and other 1000 watt generators sold on Amazon for about $300 jumped out at me. But I've read MANY negative reviews about them. I pretty much decided on a Honda or Yamaha 1000 watt generator. I've found that these are in the $730 range. Much more than the Honeywell and other cheaper generators, but way less than that 2400is. I think that I'll likely buy the Yamaha ef 1000is. I like the styling better than the Honda and other than that, they are pretty much equivalent generators.
I too bought a 1000W generator for simply re-charging my battery when out camping without electric. I couldn't stomach the price of a new honda or yamaha inverter generator, so I looked for a used one. Got what I thought was a good deal on an older 1000W yamaha (non-inverter model) off of craigslist. $175 and works like brand new. Keep your eyes out for a used one.
Jason
Don't worry, I won't be able to hear you complaining. The exhaust will drown you out. ;D
I had picked up a 5W solar battery trickle charger. I need to do the math on the camper to find out how much 12V power it pulls but from using the solar panel this past weekend at French Creek, it fell way behind. The external 3-stage charger has been running at 12.4 A for at least 10 minutes. To be fair, I ran the furnace Sunday morning and that didn't help the battery's charge level. The panel did top off the battery in the course of 1.5 days but then the battery on had its normal storage losses and didn't need a lot.
Here is a great guide for sizing portable generators. It even has a section at the bottom for recreational use ..
http://www.norwall.com/blog/ge.....enerators/
This guide helped us a lot when tryin to decide on the size of generator that was right for us
just a point on 1000w generators.
for just a little more, you can buy the 2000w version of the 1000w H&Y gennies.
having the 2000w will allow you to run everything except possibly the a/c. so this means the microwave and other normal demands.
for only about $200 more, you have double the power.
also the new Champion 2000w inverter gennie costs around $500-$600 and can be paralleled like the Honda or Yamaha.
and Champion just introduced a 3100w inverter model that has wheels and is as quiet as the H&Y comparable units. it sells for under $1000 and has a 30amp RV outlet.
this one will be a game-changer in the RV world.
That Champion 3100W looks sweet. Seems like a great deal. It's $950 on Amazon, but they are out of stock.
I'm now in the market for a small generator. I've always looked at the little off brand 1000W units. It does make sense to look at the bigger Honda or Yamaha, but my main reason to use one is to recharge my battery.
A couple of years ago, I bought a Yamaha 2400 is inverter generator on sale at Cabelas for $999.
They are not typically at $1250 discounted, but not on sale.
It ran my 15000 BTU Ac on my pup and also the 13,500 BTU on my HTT.
I can honestly say, I never ran the generator for AC for an extended period because most parks around here don't allow unlimited running of one.
So unless, you are camping where there is no power and there are not restrictions on genny's, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
A 2000 watt will do fine.
I bought the yamaha because of repair centers in my area (also for Honda). And also of parts for those brands.
I don't know anything about the Champion, but I suspect it's Chinese and repairs centers if ever needed are probably few and far between.
Make sure you have one nearby, otherwise shipping on those genny's is usually not covered for repair and any savings you had could be eaten up quickly.
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I don't know anything about the Champion, but I suspect it's Chinese and repairs centers if ever needed are probably few and far between.
Make sure you have one nearby, otherwise shipping on those genny's is usually not covered for repair and any savings you had could be eaten up quickly.
though made in China, Champion is an American company that has their generators made to their specs and they have a nationwide repair network and great customer support.
i don't own one but have been tempted to sell my Honda 2000 and but a couple of their 2000 units and parallel kit or now the 3100 model.
they have a great reputation on all the RV forums.
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