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Should campgrounds segregate tenters from RVers?
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September 21, 2011 - 8:59 am
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First off I have a big problem with someone saying tent camping is real camping ...    Sorry but it's not..  wanna split stones, then split stones...
Real camping is having a blanket, maybe two and a fire...  sleeping under the stars, no shelter, nothing ...    That is real camping... 

Now, as for the rest of the arguments made ...    get a life ...    I have seen many tent campers camp in harmony with big huge diesel pushers side by side..

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September 21, 2011 - 8:27 pm
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No.

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September 21, 2011 - 9:32 pm
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If a tenter wants to pitch their tent in a pull through site and pay for full hook ups.....they pay the same rate.  Now some campgrounds have tent only sites that may or may not have electric and might not accommodate an RV of any type.  Those might be less expensive and I feel it is the campgrounds right to say "we're not cutting down a tree or leveling the spot for an RV, therefore it is tents only"

Matt O 2006 Skyline Nomad 27' travel trailer.  Previously owned 1986 Coleman Columbia / 1992 Coleman Senecca / 1989 Born Free Class C RV.

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September 22, 2011 - 5:11 pm
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I like this description of Camping from Wikpedia:

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September 22, 2011 - 9:15 pm
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I find this discussion interesting and amusing.  I have often wondered why certain campgrounds won't allow pop ups and tents.    They can do whatever they want they own the place but, I am just curious as to why.

I recently read a campground review on a different forum, the OP was the owner of a class A and was upset that the campground put a tenter in the site next to them.  I don't understand that thinking, whats the big deal, is it going to lower your property values?

I tent camped for 28 years before I bought my pop up last year.  I still use a tent with the scouts.  I never gave it a thought about who camped next to me as long as they were respectful and courteous as most campers are.  I am anti-generator and anti-loud motorcycles. I think that type of noise is rude.

To answer your question though, I think we need to accept things for how they are and if you can't there is always boondocking somewhere

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September 23, 2011 - 10:05 am
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[quote author=Eagle link=topic=1080.msg8179#msg8179 date=1316740540]
I find this discussion interesting and amusing.  I have often wondered why certain campgrounds won't allow pop ups and tents.    They can do whatever they want they own the place but, I am just curious as to why.

There's one place in the Outer Banks of NC (Kill Devil Hills I think) which doesn't have any facilities (restrooms/showers), just full-hookup sites.  For that reason, they only accept MH/trailers with full hookups.  I'm not saying all other campgrounds have the same reason (unlikely), but some refusals of tents and pop-ups could be for similar practical and health related reasons like that.

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September 24, 2011 - 10:04 am
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Our CG has very few tenters, they don't like the smell and sound of diesel :-

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October 1, 2011 - 12:59 am
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I think each one of us should enjoy the outdoors in whatever way makes us happy. I also think that we should all take note of the campers around us and try to not disturb them with noise and actions that they might find objectional. Being good neighbors is what it is all about. If you like music when you are camping there is no reason you shouldn't be able to enjoy it but at the same time there is no reason that a camper in the next site should have to listen to it. Keep it turned down or better yet use ear buds. As a tenter I do not want to hear the noises of generators or the running of diesel engines, therefore I would rather be grouped with other tenters. In campgrounds I expect a certain amount of noises that I may not particularly care for but that is the nature of places were many people come in contact with each other. When I go backpacking I expect much more quiet surroundings. The best thing you can do is do your best to be considered of others around you. If a place I visit has too many things about it that I don't like I just don't go there ever again.Sometimes your neighbors might not realize that they are ruining your experience and all you need to do is politely speak to them about the problem and they might try to be considered enough to at least meet you half way. If not then you could ask the operators if you can be moved.

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November 28, 2011 - 8:33 am
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I don't think campgrounds should segregate the two but many local places have a field area with no roads or utilities for tent campers.

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December 6, 2011 - 7:22 am
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With 52 years of backpacking experience and 35 years of campground camping experience (tent and popup), I've made some observations and reached some conclusions. 1) People are people. If they're friendly at home, they're friendly when camping; bigoted, bigoted; intelligent, intelligent; ignorant, ignorant; organized, organized, sloppy, sloppy. 2) Camping is intensely personal; each of us has his own style (and each of us thinks his is the RIGHT style). 3) There is camping and there is RVing; the mindsets are different, and, generally, RVers look down on campers and campers generally think RVers are jerks with too much money who consider themselves privileged.

I camp to "get away from it all". I prefer state parks with comfortable sites spaced far apart, under trees. I try not to bother other people, and I hope they won't bother me; I'll say "hi" and maybe shoot the breeze a bit, but don't expect me to be your closest camping buddy. I respect the rights of the other campers (I don't cut through their sites, I don't play loud music, and I don't shine a whole bunch of lights at night, all night) and I hope they respect my rights. I run a clean, organized camp, and I hope others do the same. I abhor idiots with generators, especially the RVers who want to save 5 bucks a night by taking a no-hookup site and then running their generators (that's the type of sound I trying to get AWAY from). I love to cook and eat well in camp.

I've seen too many RVers walk their dogs through the tent sites and let them poop in the sires, and then walk away. Ii know that not all of them do this, but enough do to give them a bad reputation.

I enjoy camping with other good campers who know how to do it well and who are friendly and respectful of others. I hate to camp among I's and A's (Idiots and A******s) who are piggish, loud, rude, and disrespectful, whether they are campers or RVers.

Perhaps the question should be: Could we find a way to a way to separate the good campers from the bad campers?

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December 6, 2011 - 10:54 am
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Well said, TKnecht!

John

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December 6, 2011 - 8:29 pm
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OR How can we separate the good from the bad? :-X

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