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January 29, 2011 - 7:17 pm
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So we are in a pop-up now, our second, and looking to go to a hybrid. Our local dealer has a used 09 Palomino Stampede. It's in great shape, here it comes, the but, but when we went back foe a second look and decide to say yes, my wife noticed the rear bunk had some water staining and the salesman suggested to walk away. Now I'm wondering, we went in to see a new Jayco 19H, is he just trying to steer us to a new unit or could there be more than just surface staining and be internal damage to the unit?

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January 29, 2011 - 7:31 pm
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Go Big,
I'm in a pop up camper so there are more experienced members here for this question but two things I would look out for that I know hybrid manufactures have changes to stop water problems:
1) a run off rain gutter above the bunk end to divert water
2) permanently attached canvas to the bunks with a separate canvas overhang so rain can't run under

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January 30, 2011 - 4:42 am
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where was the water staining? on the canvas, the wood around the hinge or somewhere else on the bunk?
it's very unusual for leaking on the rear bunk. 95% of those that do leak, are on the front bunk, since it faces into the rain.

could also be from the previous owners not clearing the canvas from the seals when they were closing it up.
could also have been from leakage around the marker lights.
the '09 FR hybrids had upgraded/redesigned seal systems.

i will say, even though i love my Roo, the new Jaycos have the best bunk end sealing and hinge system i've seen on any hybrid.

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January 30, 2011 - 10:18 am
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The staining was along the vertical edge of the bunk and looked like it had pooled at the bottom on the sill below the bunk cusion.

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January 30, 2011 - 11:42 am
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[quote author=Go Big! link=topic=524.msg3008#msg3008 date=1296400680]
The staining was along the vertical edge of the bunk and looked like it had pooled at the bottom on the sill below the bunk cusion.

hard to say. was it on one side or on both? if it was on one side, could easily been canvas that wasn't tucked in on one side.
like i said, seal leakage on the rear bunks is not very common on hybrids.

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January 30, 2011 - 12:20 pm
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yeah, i know it is hard to tell, the only other clue was that there is a slight musty Oder. If I can get some sort of commitment from the dealer it would be a great move up. I'm thinking he probably want's me in the NEW Jayco though.

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January 30, 2011 - 12:25 pm
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Pass on that one. There are many others, new and used.

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January 30, 2011 - 1:20 pm
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IMHO, sounds like there is a water problem there...  stay away and keep looking.  You don't want to start with a problem, cause you will end up with something worst.

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February 3, 2011 - 12:56 pm
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What I like about my 2011 Keystone Passport Hybrid was that the canvas and the seal are one unit, so that even if you didn't tuck in the canvas properly, the water could not penetrate into the box. I think the only other HTT that does something similar is Jayco/Starcraft HTT's. My Sunbrella is also attached to the bunk end  all the way around when it's down so water can't enter there either.

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